OPINION
There I was...#5
Published on March 29, 2007 By Big Fat Daddy In Misc
I arrived in Stuttgart, West Germany in October of 1977. It had been seven years since I left Germany and I had some reorienting to do. Just as I got there, the Red Army Faction was cranking up a new campaign to get one of their leaders out of prison. The plan was to kidnap a pretty big industrialist and trade him for Andreas Baader. To say the plan went awry is like saying the Titanic had a little mishap on her maiden voyage.

First of all...I never bought the idea of the "Red Army Faction" ...when I left Germany in the late fall of 1970, Andy Baader and his sweetie, Ulrike Mienhof, were a couple of bankrobbers who had been compared to Bonnie and Clyde. They, and their buddies, were a gang of thugs...not political. When I got back to Germany they were communist terrorists. Anyway, Andy got himself caught, then Ulrike got herself caught, then their buddies hatched a plot to get them out.

To make a long story short...the Germans don't negotiate with terrorists. They wouldn't play along. Baader, in an effort to confuse the issue of his suicide, shot himself in the back of the head with a 9mm pistol...in the highest security prison in Germany. I couldn't make this up...research it, kids. So the Palistinians in sympathy with their German Brothers, hi jacked an airliner and parked it in Mogodishu. The Germans went and got it back. The industrialist, Hans Martin Schluyer, was killed and stuffed into the trunk of his car. It marked the end of any kind of effectiveness for the RAF.

Here's what the Germans did. First, the made a poster of wallet sized photos of all the known members of RAF and collaborators. They posted these posters in stores and shops and bus stops and markets and train stations, on streetcars...just about anywhere people gathered...there was this poster. Next they blitzed the radio and TV stations with information on these people. Then they started making road blocks where the posters were displayed and every occupant of every car was examined by police. (This included pinching autobahns down to one lane and examining every car). Roaming patrols went through every bar in town to insure the posters remained prominantly displayed.

Then...as these measures and others they didn't talk about began to show some success...the Germans would reissue a new version of the poster...not removing any faces but instead they put a big red "X" over the faces of RAF personnel that had been killed or captured. After a few months, the posters carried a lot of red "X"s. Why did so many die? Let me illustrate:

Peter Willie Stohl was one of the most wanted of the RAF. He was spotted in a cafe in a city in Northern Central Germany. When surrounded by a large number of police, Peter Willie pulled out his pistol and decided to shoot it out. Peter Willie didn't make it. In the firefight, several "suspected Terrorists" were wounded. Peter Willie was buried and a week or two later a small report was issued stating that all of the suspected terrorists in the cafe had been cleared and released.

In less than a year the poster was mostly covered in red...a serious deterant to Red Army Faction recruiting, I am sure. And within a year the Red Army Faction ceased to be the big bad entity it had been. They claimed to be around still. When the wall came down and the two Germanys reunited, several exiled RAF members were captured and put in prison.

The last big thing I remember them attempting was September of 1981 when they launched a couple of RPG's at the US Army Europe's commander. An act which cranked up security to new heights and gave me opportunities to do some real fun stull on the Army's dime...I tell you about that later. The attempt on General Kroesen was so poorly executed it just showed off how lame RAF had become. Their intelligence sure fell short...Kroesen had just switched to an armored Mercedes a few days before the attack. The first rocket missed completely, the second hit the trunk with little affect on those inside.

Anyway, the Germans came up with a plan and worked it and it worked. They got caught short in '72 at Munich. They vowed that would never happen again.

It seems there should be more to say or some better point to make. I just think that if the Germans can fix their problem, surely we could do better than we are.

Comments
on Mar 30, 2007

I was just down the road in 72 (Frankfurt) from Munich.  I think your analysis is fair, but you missed a point.  While the Germans were caught flatfooted, and the 11 Israeli atheletes suffered with their life, the PLO did not get away.  The Germans never would negotiate, and although the colateral damage was high, other than the thugs (it was called the Baader-Meinhof gang then - not the RAF), none have tried since.

They made a statement that there would be no compromising with Terrorists at that point.

on Mar 30, 2007
With some things in this article I agree, with some I don't.
During the 70s, there have been instances where the german government indeed did negotiate with terrorists. For example, the 'Bewegung 2.Juni', another terrorist group with loose contacts to the RAF, managed to kidnap Peter Lorenz (a candidate for mayor in Berlin) and successfully exchanged im for several imprisoned terrorists.* This successful operation was inspirational for later attempts of the RAF to pull of something similar, but the RAF - along with bad tactical decisions - made the mistake to demand to much, so the government refused to accept the demands. Had the RAF been more modest, succesful negotiations between the terrorists and the government might perhaps have continued.

I also think it is important to point out that the current situation with Al Quaida is completly different than the situation we had here in germany during the 70s:
Most of the RAF members were known - the police, as you wrote, was able to give names and pictures of the wanted terrorists, so the whole population was looking out for them and they had to operate underground, which comes with high risks and sooner or later, most of them made mistakes. Since Al Quaida is working with sleeper agents that live a normal, legal live until they are activated, nobody knows whom we are looking for.
Furthmore, though the RAF-members were willing to risk their lives, they were quite eager to keep it as long as possible. A suicide bomber on the other hand is going to die anyway, so he is taking different risks. Security measures that would persuade a RAF member that an attack is to risky won't discourage an Al Quaida sleeper who is going to die anyway.

The strategies that worked against the RAF are therefore not useful agains Al Quaida, I think it is hard to compare both kinds of terrorism.


(* see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movement_2_June )
on Mar 30, 2007
You make some very good points, Yellow Sign. Too which might be added the fact that the American public would not tolerate such an intrusion into their everyday lives. The ACLU would be all over any effort of the kind needed on the scale needed.
on Mar 30, 2007
The ACLU would be all over any effort of the kind needed on the scale needed.


HMMM...more pictures for the poster?

During the 70s, there have been instances where the german government indeed did negotiate with terrorists. For example, the 'Bewegung 2.Juni', another terrorist group with loose contacts to the RAF, managed to kidnap Peter Lorenz (a candidate for mayor in Berlin) and successfully exchanged im for several imprisoned terrorists


Yeah, but something happened between '75 and '77. Maybe it was the attempts on the State Prosecutors life or something like that...but with the Schluyer situation the German Police seemed to harden. You are probably right about the earlier case inspiring and emboldening the RAF, but I am not sure they would have gotten any thing if they had asked for less. The German police I dealt with in Stuttgart seemed to be taking this whole thing very personally. They were mad. The "capture" of P W Stohl was especially personal for them, PW was a local boy, raised in Stuttgart-Vaihingen and childhood friends with a number of the police officers. They seemed almost embarassed by him.

I also think it is important to point out that the current situation with Al Quaida is completly different than the situation we had here in germany during the 70s:


I wholeheartedly agree.

Since Al Quaida is working with sleeper agents that live a normal, legal live until they are activated, nobody knows whom we are looking for.


This is also true in the US and most European Countries. However...the recent arrests in England were because of citizens thinking that something wasn't right with their neighbors. But for the most part the sleepers are hard to spot. What I was mainly thinking about was the current problem in Iraq. I believe that there are a lot of people there who know who the bad guys are. And we don't broadcast our intelligence because we want to "protect sources". I am thinking BROADCAST...put their faces out there. If they are bad guys, lets get 'em...if not...clear 'em and move on. I am frustrated at the apparent lack of progress when there are proven methods that aren't being used

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we had here in germany during the 70s:


Are you in Germany now? Why? Where? Boy do I miss it. Anyhow, thanks for the input.
on Apr 02, 2007
Are you in Germany now? Why? Where? Boy do I miss it.

I'm actually german and live near Wiesbaden (beautiful Rhein-Main-area).
I worked in in the US for a while a couple of years ago (in Providence, RI to be precise) and - boy, do I miss it.
on Apr 02, 2007

I'm actually german and live near Wiesbaden (beautiful Rhein-Main-area).

Was just across the river from you - 30 years ago!  I loved the place.  Given the choice of RI or Germany - I would pick Germany.

on Apr 02, 2007
Thanks for the reply, YS. Over about a thirty year career I spent nearly fourteen years in Germany. Bad Kissingen, Mannheim, Stuttgart-Vaihingen, Baumholder, and Ludwigsburg. It is a great country and the last time I left, knowing I wouldn't be back, was like cutting the ties to a close friend.

Given the choice of RI or Germany - I would pick Germany.


As we used to say auf Deutsch, "Eben!"