OPINION
A Parent's Nightmare
Published on August 2, 2007 By Big Fat Daddy In Misc
The tragic bridge collapse will no doubt generate a jillion discussions on funding, inspections, work slowdowns, etc, etc...and it will turn out ot be George Bush's fault. I don't want to make light of a real bad evening for a lot of folks. Listening to the local talk radio this afternoon, I heard lots of comments about the agony of waiting for news...who is and who isn't...when will we know??? Flashbacks to every major catastrophe in the last generation or so...whenever there is a huge mess like this, we all have to sit around wondering until the lists are complete...9/11...plane crashes...earthquakes...fires...tornadoes...you name it.

I remember specifically the Air Show disaster at Ramstein Air Base in Germany in the late 80's. We had an alert (an emergency recall of all personnel) in Baumholder to take a headcount. I was especially concerned because, although I knew where my family was, I also knew that several of my soldiers were planning on attending that air show. We loaded our medics and their gear into our trucks and hauled them to the Air Base, about 60 miles south of us, to assist with mass casualty treatment. It was very early the next day before I knew for sure that my soldiers were not injured...but true to their noble nature, they had stayed around to help with injured spectators...a wonderful thing to do...but a call to report their status would have been nice.

The point? In our family we have a rule...I gotta know where you are...always. Basic parenting...in my opinion. Life is just easier when you don't have to spend it wondering and worrying. Well...we still worry...but the rule works, mostly. . I know where the Hypoborean Wanderer is...and his brood...mostly...Life Happens keeps me posted on her adventures and travels...I recently learned that Toothaches Revenge is one on mine, also...and he checks in regularly to keep us up to date on his travels and wanderings...MamieLady is mine...she stays in close touch...that leaves Toothache's next door neighbor, my #2 son, and we are always aware when he has travelling plans. They learned young that it was a requirement to keep us aware of where they are. I know that any kid can,and sometimes will. slip off to parts unknown...hopefully they don't do it too often.

I see a lot of kids, some of them are pretty young, drifting around our neighborhood at all hours. It is summer, school is out, kids stay up half the night, if they are old enough they drive down our street 40 miles above the speed limit, if they are too young to drive they cruise on foot...laughing and swearing and smoking and who knows what else...and I have to wonder...do their parents have a clue where these kids are??? And do they care?

So am I off base? Is it too old school to make young'uns accountable for their time? Should we even care? Is it a violation of trust...or and intrusion into their privacy? Does this mini-rant even make sense? Whatayathink?





Comments
on Aug 02, 2007
I don't think you are off base. Every parent has a right and responsibility to keep track of their kids. I think the fact that your kids still do shows that you were able to do it without them feeling like you were just too controlling or nosy. That's what makes it hard. Teens especially are trying to assert their independence and are often put off by parents who want all the details, but if you start young and just make it a standard rule for everyone in your house then it should be easier.
on Aug 02, 2007
It's not a difficult thing to expect, but some kids, especially the older ones feel that they are too old to be accountable. My oldest girl thinks that way, even though she grew up with us being that way with her, allowing independence yet making her be accountable at the same time. There is however a time to let go, when they are old, even though that's hard to do.

But no, it's not too unreasonable to expect other parents to know where their children are or to be accountable for them, as parents and the ones in charge. Here, around my neighborhood, that's a common thing, unfortunately, and it's becoming harder to keep my little one distracted because she wants to have the same freedom and I won't let her. She expects to have free run at all hours without accountability the way her other friends do. That's not happening!
on Aug 02, 2007
Mine are still little so I totally know where they are at all times.

In fact, most of the time the youngest is literally attached to me, LOL.
on Aug 02, 2007
It's not a difficult thing to expect, but some kids, especially the older ones feel that they are too old to be accountable. My oldest girl thinks that way, even though she grew up with us being that way with her, allowing independence yet making her be accountable at the same time. There is however a time to let go, when they are old, even though that's hard to do.


I don't have kids yet so I don't really know for sure how things will go. I agree that we have to let go. Mainly I just think every family is different so there can't be a prescribed way for everyone to follow. However, it is important for parents to be responsible (as you are obviously being).

My parents always knew where I was going and who I would be with. Since I never had much desire to do things I shouldn't it wasn't a big deal (besides you can get into trouble anywhere ). BUT later when I came back to visit and found out that my youngest brother just got to go wherever whenever without having to tell my parents...BOY did I let my parents have it! How unfair! *pouts*
on Aug 02, 2007
My youngest, who will be 27 in a few weeks, was in Las Vegas when that parking lot bomb went off. I knew what her plans were and I was reasonably certain that she wasn't anywhere around that place...I still was worried about it until I heard from her. Which wasn't right away. When we did get a chance to talk about it, she was apologetic...realizing she had left us hangin'.

There is however a time to let go, when they are old, even though that's hard to do.


You know, I guess you are right, but I still feel that same responsible feeling even though all my littlies are quite big now. I am lucky to have a family that loves one another and they do keep each other informed on things...we all look out for each other. No, I am still Big Fat Daddy and I just can't help it.

In fact, most of the time the youngest is literally attached to me,


Mamielady has a little one like that...she can be just as social as can be but if Mom starts to leave the room...look out!

I think the fact that your kids still do shows that you were able to do it without them feeling like you were just too controlling or nosy


Thank you but I think they thought I was controlling and nosy...hehehe..
on Aug 03, 2007
As children, yes we need to keep up with them.  But there comes a time when they have their own life, and then we can only hope.  I know where my youngest are pretty much all the time.  My older 2 are well over the legal age, and I can only hope they let me know.
on Aug 03, 2007
I always know where my kids are. They're young enough that they're usually in the yard or playing in their rooms. If they aren't playing in the yard, we know where they are going and when we expect them back. We also have a basic plan cellphone that we keep available for when the kids are going to be going out of voice range (which, for me, is considerable ... a testament to the teachings of a few retired Army Sergeants I had the pleasure of working with years ago). Any change of plans, and the kids come by and let us know or call us and let us know.

My kids, I know, realize that we don't do this to pick on, micromanage, or stifle them. My wife and I do the same thing for each of us. When I leave work, I give her a call to let her know (given the traffic in the Hampton Roads area ... that's a sanity saver). When one of us is out and about, we call to let the other know about change of location and any changes to plans. It's not something that we force on each other. It's something that we do to alleviate some of the anxiety involved in the world today.

And BFD - that air show? I remember the accident vividly. Watching the coverage on AFN as it happened (and the aftermath) was rather traumatic. I also had several classmates that were severely injured. We didn't have any deaths from it at our highschool, but it was close in a couple cases. We were in Wurzburg at the time.
on Aug 03, 2007
We all owe our families the courtesy of information regarding our whereabouts, child, parent, or spouse.


Absolutely.

It's not a question of being nosy or controlling, At this age I'm not asking permission, but if I go missing I want someone to know about it. Fast. It's common courtesy - basic safety.
on Aug 03, 2007
And BFD - that air show? I remember the accident vividly


Thinking about it, I think I will follow up with another article on that...lots of stuff happened that day...too much for here.

It's something that we do to alleviate some of the anxiety involved in the world today.


MamaCharlie's cell phone is permanently attached...few years ago we had some really bad rains in the Swirling Epicenter and on the way back from dropping Mamielady off at work, Mama disappeared for over three hours. Turns out she was not stuck in a flooded intersection...she was jammed up behind a bunch of dummies who were stuck in a flooded intersection. No cell phone...not even a nearby phone booth. I was driving a 68 GTO as a daily work car at the time and there was no way it would get through the floods. She finally got home with harrowing tales of overworked wipers, raging drain ditches and flooded cross streets. And I started to breath again. So the next week we got cell phones and I started shopping for a large 4X4.

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Did I mention they were in their 60s at the time?


Shame on those OLD people....seriously, I wholeheartedly agree...it could have had a really bad outcome. That Yosemite claims lots of folks every year...some even younger than 60.

Shit happens, BFD. It can happen in a heartbeat, and in the most mundane of situations. We all owe our families the courtesy of information regarding our whereabouts, child, parent, or spouse.

And we all need to tell those people how much we love them, every single time we speak. Let it be the last thing they hear before you walk out the door or hang up the phone or hit 'send' on that email.


Thanks, Whip. I couldn't agree more...you said best.
on Aug 03, 2007
And in keeping with Whip's advice...thank you all and let me tell you that you have all come to be very special to me.