OPINION
There I Was...#79
Published on January 8, 2009 By Big Fat Daddy In Misc

Sometime in the late summer of 1967 I found myself at odds with the local Selective Service Office (Draft Board). Almost a year previously, I had received a notice to appear for physical evaluation at the induction station in LA. I had let my dad, The Chief, know about the notice and he said he would let them know why I wouldn't be there. But a year later they were concerned that I hadn't shown up and wanted me to know what a serious offense it was to blow off their notices. So that is how I found myself walking in to the San Diego Selective Service Office...DD214 in hand...to explain why I couldn't be at their little physical exam the year before.

I had come home from Vietnam on the 23rd of December, 1966. I wasn't a hero and didn't expect a hero's welcome, ticker tape parades, brass bands, etc. I was just REALLY glad to be home. I thought it would be cool to see my buddies from High School, have a few dates with some of the girls I knew, hang out with my buds...etc. Some of that happened. But what I didn't expect was to be treated as though I had done something wrong.

Our plane had taken off from Than Son Nhut AFB to the cheers and applause of its passengers. We were relieved and happy to be homeward bound. We stopped for a couple hours in Okinawa then spent the next 18 hours flying straight through to Travis AFB, CA. Thanks to a tailwind and the International Dateline, we landed two hours before we took off. I never knew if it was planned that way or if the tailwind we ran into made it possible for us to bypass Hawaii altogether. We had been told we would be spending a couple of hours there at Hickam, but it didn't happen. In any case, from Travis we were bussed into Oakland Army Terminal where we were fitted for our new uniforms and issued a bunch of new stuff... underwear, socks, shaving kit, new fatigues and boots, stuff like that. They altered our Class A's, applied the appropriate patches and stripes, and then called our names to dress up, get our orders and our pay, and then head for the nearest Airport. So far, our experience returning home was olive drab and khaki with no civilian interaction at all. Some day when I feel a little more generous, I will recount the indignities that began as soon as we left the gate at OAT. It was the height of the 60's;  anti-war folks - hippies- were everywhere and their actions were sure strange for folks who claimed to want peace! Anyway...I got home intact, despite the efforts of our peace-loving brethern.

I had read a lot about the anti-war stuff but it still came as a shock to me. I figured that the folks at home wouldn't be like that. I was wrong. Some of my good friends who had sent me off the year before praising me for being so brave, were now calling me names and treating me like I had been a war criminal (I hadn't...that was John Kerry's bunch). I really didn't want the hero stuff, but civility would have been nice.

Anyhow, after a few months at Ft Huachuca I got out, returned home and started the job search. I got the letter from SSS and was ordered to present myself and my excuses to the San Diego office to explain or a warrant would be issued with my name on the invitation line. And that is how I wound up in that office on that day in the late summer of 1967. Here's what happened there.

When I walked in, the only other customers were two VERY large Hell's Angels. They were slouched all over the counter while they had a conversation with the girl on the other side. The two of them took up all the space at the counter. They had on their "colors" and...did I mention they were both HUGE? Another girl on the other side of the counter spied me and asked if she could help. I tried to explain over the massive shoulder in front of me that I had this letter and I had to explain why I hadn't made my physical screening appointment months earlier. She started in on the lecture explaining how serious it was for me to miss that evaluation. I told her that I would have loved to have been there but was physically unable...I had been in Vietnam at the time. Funny thing happened on both sides of the counter simultaneously...the two monsters in front of me stopped talking and turned to look at me, impressive as I was, all 150 lbs of Southeast Asian diet and exercise program, and the girl on the other side of the counter underwent an unbelievable transformation from civil-servant-disinterested-bored-no-time-for-you counter waif to caring, grateful, anything-I-can-do helper. I showed her my DD214 and we were able to clear up the little misunderstanding with assurances that this would be sent off right away to the "main office" and I would not be bothered again. As we wrapped up our business, I was met with heartfelt handshakes and back-patting from the Angels, who both showed genuine feeling for what I had been through.

Over the years I have told this to people focusing on the SNAFU that had the SSS send me a draft notice while I was in Vietnam...it is worth a yuk or two. But what I haven't spent too much time on is the feelings I had as I walked out of that office where I had initially been scared spitless of the monsters-off-the-leash at both sides of the counter. I had, in a matter of a few minutes, received from strangers (a couple of pretty scary strangers, at that) more compassion, genuine welcome, warmth and congratulations than I had from my "best friends" in the months since I had come home. What's my point? I don't know. After 42 years you'd think it wouldn't matter anymore...but somehow...it does.


Comments
on Jan 09, 2009

I can understand how you felt walking into a room full of strangers....big scary people that you wouldn't want to mess with.

For me it was walking in to meet my in-laws. The ONLY picture that HW had was a grainy underexposed print that made the entire faimly looke like Charles Manson-esqe serial killers.  When I showed up...J. was big and scary looking. M. was long haired, greasy and also very scary.  YOU had been well described as a former 1SG (as a young soldier, that did make me a bit nervous too!)

But I have to say that it worked out pretty well!

on Jan 09, 2009

I think it will always matter.  Back in 67, I was in SD, my step father in Da Nang, and I but an 11 year old snot nosed kid.  But I remember as well.  Living with the military, you quickly learned that there were Brats - and Civies.  And most of the latter did not want anything to do with you.

I saw enough of the hate.  And enough of the genuine gratitude expressed by some.  And that latter came in all shapes and forms.  And like you found out, the funny thing was, regardless of background, color, creed, or Biker origin, the latter made your day and earned some respect for themselves as well.

on Jan 09, 2009

Geeze BFD sounds very much like what I went through, except my last duty station was at Treasure Island where I was a brig guard, before I was a brig prisoner for "striking a superior officer" Some little dweeb Ensign that did not like Marines and made it obvious so I bitch slapped the little twat and wound up in so much trouble for that action. Anyways I digress, While I was a brig guard I took liberty in San fran freako and was treated like shit, {I still hate that city} We were warned to NOT wear out uniforms on liberty, but I thought fuck that and wore mine proudly needless to say the Kerry crowd did everything but shit on my shoes. This has left me with a bad taste in my mouth since I separated in 1966.

on Jan 09, 2009

San fran freako and was treated like shit,

Not much changed 5 years later either

on Jan 09, 2009

LH:  We was all a bunch of teddy bears.  And we all love you.

Doc:  Califreakinfornia has always been a center of unreality, unfortunately, most of the state (away from the three big leftie camps...LA, SF, and "the bay area") is rather conservative and pro military.  But it is true that even in places that depend on the military for their bread and butter, there is a lot of anti-military sentiment.

LW:  While I was in-country in '66, Sonny volunteered the whole Oakland Chapter to go to Vietnam and kick some butt.  All they wanted was the military to ship their scoots and supply pyro.  The Department of Defense politely declined.  Another bad decision by our leaders!

MM:  I skipped the trip through SFO and LAX on the way home...subject for a later post.  But I hear ya, bro...been there.

 

on Jan 10, 2009

I was from the East Coast when I enlisted. When I came back I was sent to the East Coast. It was so different from the stories I have heard about the West Coast. Folks back there were actually nice. I never had a problem with anyone.

Acutally, I was the problem. Four Article 15's.

I feel ackward posting about this. I spoke of those times very rarely. Funny as it may sound, I really like Nam. The people were ok, the country was beautiful. But I've forgotten most of that. What's not so funny is the war. It lingers.

I listen to the guys coming back from Iraq and Afganistan.  I see it in their eyes.

Anyway, I've heard a lot of stuff that happened on the west coast when ya'all came home. I know it must of hurt. Someway or other.  I'm just glad I was on the East side. Don't know how I'd of recacted back then if I was confronted with some of what you guys faced.

on Jan 10, 2009

Dust:  First let me say thanks...thanks for being there and thanks for your service.  I haven't seen your name before. If you are new here, it is a great place to explore some of the past and examine it while remaining semi-anonymous. 

Thanks for the reply.  I know it is hard to drag up some of the memories and I appreciate your input, uncomfortable as it may be.  I thought the Nam was a beautiful place, too.  I wasn't so fond of the people, I had a lot of dealings with local population and was always amazed at how they could be friendly and nice during the day and become your deadly enemy by night.  It tended to sour me on them.  I have watched parts of a few of the shows where vets have gone back over there to look for their old base camps or battle sites.  If that helps a guy deal with his demons, bonzai.  I have no desire to re-visit places where I experienced so much fear and unhappiness.  If I needed that I could just go back to Oakland or San Francisco...or Los Angeles...or San Diego...or Tucson...or Phoenix...or...

As for the other coast, I only have two experiences there to compare.  One was a drunk who harangued me because I wore glasses...how could I "go up the hill" wearing glasses...I was too skinny and nearsighted to be a sergeant and so on.  This in a diner in NYC, October 1967.  In November 1970 I got lost in Bayonne NJ.  I had picked up my car and got turned around looking for the way out.  A group of dock workers were having lunch on the pier and after the third time I drove by they waved me down.  They politely gave me directions and made sure I knew where I was going.  So, for the right coast, I am batting .500. 

This article came about as the result of a discussion I was having with my bride, MamaCharlie.  The subject was "why did you go back into the Army in '67?"  This story was part of the answer.  Now I have to wonder what would have happened if I had come home to be stationed in Dix or Jackson.  Again, thanks for the reply. 

on Jan 10, 2009

Gathering_Dust
I was from the East Coast when I enlisted. When I came back I was sent to the East Coast. It was so different from the stories I have heard about the West Coast. Folks back there were actually nice. I never had a problem with anyone.Acutally, I was the problem. Four Article 15's.I feel ackward posting about this. I spoke of those times very rarely. Funny as it may sound, I really like Nam. The people were ok, the country was beautiful. But I've forgotten most of that. What's not so funny is the war. It lingers.I listen to the guys coming back from Iraq and Afganistan.  I see it in their eyes.Anyway, I've heard a lot of stuff that happened on the west coast when ya'all came home. I know it must of hurt. Someway or other.  I'm just glad I was on the East side. Don't know how I'd of recacted back then if I was confronted with some of what you guys faced.

I have not seen you name either, but welcome to the insane asylum, there are more that a few nam vets here some Army, some navy, some air force and of cource the best of all some Marines, can you guess what branch I was in? giggle.

Indeed you can examine some of those feeling here but I caution you to not get to personal due to the fact there are some assholes here that might use it to torment you. For the most part this is a very good community of bloggers, some very nice people come here, I have even made a friend or two { I do not throw the word friend around casually}

on Jan 10, 2009

there are some assholes here that might use it to torment you

The old toast goes, "Here's to us and those like us, damn few of them left"  My addendum is this:  "And for those who ain't...SCROOM."

on Jan 10, 2009

This non-armya-irforce-navy-marine person appreciates each of you and is grateful!

on Jan 10, 2009

FS:  We appreciates you, too, darlin'.

on Jan 10, 2009

Doesn't surprise me at all that the bikers would be so appreciative of your service. I've been a biker, and associated with bikers, most of my life and I know they appreciate our military members.

Sorry about your so-called friends' reactions to your service. Obviously they weren't really friends at all.

Thanks for your service from one (younger) vet to another.

on Jan 11, 2009

Obviously they weren't really friends at all.

Funny how you find out who your friends really are, huh?  Like most of SoCal folks, they were made of plastic and sooooo concerned about image and appearances and all...doesn't take too many incoming rounds to change your perspective on things like that.  Maybe I should have shot at them!

LW:  I missed out by not meeting you in your heyday...whew!  As for the DoD declining...I am sure it had more to do with the fear of being shown up than anything else.  And just  for the record...HA isn't the only place where bad dudes grow...there were plenty of scary folks sneaking around the jungles and hardwoods of SE Asia.  Just ask the surviving VC, they'll tell ya!

on Jan 11, 2009

I'd rather not. How about I just continue my life-long boycott of Vietnamese owned convenience stores? You know the ones, they sell picked grass juice and fermented god-knows-what right next to the Ding-Dongs and Wonder Bread.

Ahh...the sights, sounds, and SMELLS of the orient.  The things memories (and nightmares) are made of...heheee.