OPINION
Published on April 29, 2010 By Big Fat Daddy In Misc

In December of 1971 I got out of the Army after seven years active duty and three months Reserve. The "New Action Army" was to be made up of all volunteers. And a lot of the traditional controls and routines were being cast aside in favor of a more comfortable Army...comfortable for the pogues that drifted into it...not for those responsible for herding them. But that is grist for another mill. We left Fort Hood, Texas and moved to Phoenix, AZ. I am not sure what I expected, but it sure wasn't what I got.

My first job was as an instructor at the Arizona School of Driving. The school offered a 15-hour course of instruction. But not contracted; a student could quit at any time. It was the instructor's responsibility to keep selling the course so the student got the "full benefit" of it. Most people can pass a driving test after six or seven hours and see no need to do more. The school kept the first 23 1/2 hours of each week's take and the instructor got the rest. When you consider the scheduling difficulties, cancellations, and drop-outs, you could spend sixty or seventy hours trying to get your 23.5 hours in...and not earn a dime, either. Instructors learned to overbook and double-up and other techniques the school strictly forbade. It sucked. Inside of six months I became a senior instructor...a trainer...and the recipient of all the hard cases no one else wanted to train. I gave the school forty hours a week for nothing but kept everything I made on students beyond forty. Some deal, huh? It was like I was earning my living in my spare time.

I left there and went to work at Associated Grocers...a Co-Op warehouse operation that serviced Fry's, Lucky's, Smitty's and several other food sellers in the Valley of the Sun. I was a loading dock worker; a "temporary" non-union filler. I could only work three weeks out of a month without joining the Union, and only a select few were allowed to join. The pay was only about 3/4s of the union scale but it was still better than the driving school. It was beyond measure the hardest work I ever did in my life.

Every morning the boxcars would roll in on the railroad spur. Usually all but three or four of them would fit inside the warehouse. The rest would sit out in the sun. The dock extended out far enough that we could have easy access to them, but by nine o'clock the outside temperature would be closing in on triple digits and inside the boxcars that were out there the temperatures were unbelievable. Guess which cars the temporary dock workers got? We got on the clock at 7:00 am and almost ran to the outside cars in order to get them unloaded before the sun did its nasty work.

The job consisted of placing a pallet on the ground in front of the door of the boxcar, then stacking the boxes or bags that were in the boxcar onto the pallet. No space was wasted. Everything was packed tight. We had to pry the first row of boxes out; after that it usually went pretty smoothly. Kraft and Morton Salt cars were the absolute worst. The Kraft boxes were filled with commercial-sized jars of mayonaise, ketchup, and mustard. Or relish or pickles. The boxes were HEAVY... and in them days the jars were all glass...no dropsies. The Morton Salt cars were...well...heavy bags of salt. A bag of salt a little larger than your old-fashioned brown paper bag from the grocery store would weigh about fifty pounds. You had to start by reaching up high to grab a heavy box or bag, then bend over and place it on the pallet. And not just any old way, either. Each product had to be stacked a specific way...arranged on the pallet so as to "lock" the stack in place. You couldn't go above a certain height on each pallet. So learning to lock five bags and stacking them in four layers translates into a "five-tie four high"...or "eight-tie three high"...etc, etc, etc. Each layer had to be laid out the opposite of the layer below; that is how they "tied" together. Most of the products you could stack as many as three pallets high. So we started off lifting product from the top; after a little bit we were lifting and shifting at about the same level. Then as we worked to the bottom we were lifting from the floor of the boxcar and stacking above shoulder level on the pallet. We usually put two pallets next to each other and built them both up to the start of the second pallet, then used one as a step up to the other. When that one got to its full level a forklift would take it inside and we put another in its place, building one and then another that way until the car was empty. Every five minutes or so some jerk came by and yelled at us to go faster...threatening to fire us if we didn't step it up.

This was real "man's" work. I never heard OSHA mentioned in those days; there was no such thing as a "two-man lift" or "70 lbs max". I never saw a back-brace belt. If you couldn't lift a hundred-pound bag of salt or rice over your head, you need not apply. We could get into a rhythm and shuffle product pretty quickly once we got warmed up. And warming up didn't take long in those outside boxcars. If we were still working on the outside cars after nine am, life became a real misery...the inside temperature could reach 150 degrees.

My first day on the job wore me down pretty hard. I had salt-rime all over my shirt; and my boots, stylish Easy-Rider boots with the cool straps and rings and all, were not ideal for working on your feet all day. I barely made it through a shower and dinner before flopping on the bed. The next morning was unbelievable hell. Every joint and muscle was on fire. My feet were swollen and painful and I was barely able to get my boots on. I could hardly walk. But I went to work. It took an hour or more to work the aches and kinks out of the muscles and joints but the feet were not getting better. Walking was pure misery and lifting and shifting caused the fire to spread up my legs. That night I was even slower to the shower and bed. The third day I wasn't sure I would be able to get up at all. The boots were the worst part; the wrestling match to get them on caused so much pain I was afraid I would pass out. But they were the only hard shoes I owned and we weren't allowed to wear "tennies". The heat was unbearable; the days went on forever. The breaks - fifteen minutes in the morning and afternoon - were too short, lunchtime too long in coming and too soon over, and driving home too little of a relief.

Monday of the second week was almost like starting all over again, but by noon I was feeling pretty good. My feet hadn't started off swollen; the weekend had calmed that down and I was actually able to jump around on the pallets without tears. Surprisingly, Tuesday I was able to get up and get going without the moans and groans. On Wednesday I actually took part in the lunchtime discussion of the Summer Olympics, got curious enough to watch that night, and my family got hooked on the coverage. The third week I was finally getting in condition...feet, joints, muscles. I still came home sweated-out and sore. I still woke up hurting and tight. But not like the first week. The end of the third week they let me go. "Term Limits" for non-union temps. They told me I did okay, but they would not hire me back on for at least three weeks. So I went in search of something new.

I think that the job at Associated Grocers would qualify today as one of those that sympathizers would say "white people" won't do...so we need an illegal to do it. Funny thing was, there wasn't a single Hispanic person on that crew. In those days, Phoenix was not covered on every corner with a dozen off-the-books "day workers" (illegals). Every time ICE raids a company and runs off a dozen or a hundred or three hundred illegals, the jobs are almost immediately filled by legal Americans who want to work. RoseinArizona's post about the cost of illegals has some sobering dollar amounts, especially in the area of labor. I don't think there are any jobs Americans won't do...I know I have had my share of jobs that I really didn't want to do but all those littlies were addicted to food. I would dare to say that I have had a few jobs the illegals wouldn't do. The argument is not valid.

 


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on Apr 29, 2010

Back in college, I was taking any job that paid well (all manual, mostly no skill stuff).  I learned several things during that time.

1. 3 guys and a pallet jack can overload a Semi in less than a day.

2. Hush Puppies makes some great comfortable shoes!!!!!!  They just do not last more than a few months.

3.  Like you, there was no such things as work that an american would not do.

I am glad I use my brain now.  And fortunately, loading semi's was not a full time job, just a one week project for me.

But your story makes me wonder about one thing.  Who LOADED those box cars! (Probably in some more moderate climate at least).

on Apr 29, 2010

You know they didn't load themselves...

on May 09, 2010

Lol, hearing about this makes me think about my days at work now... Though I have to admit yes, we have a lot of crazy rules above us saying we can only work so long in such temperatures.. but honestly they are probably for the best.. and when you have been working 3 hours in 100+ degrees you never argue with a mando break.. LoL

on May 09, 2010

That be the truth, that be.

on May 09, 2010

Illegals ... first it was free black men, then anyone with Japanese ancestry, now hispanics and anyone wearing a beard.

If the United States is to be a supremacist state, then it deserves to be wiped off the face of the planet.

Bigotry and fascism disgusts me no end.  When you feel it is a crime for someone tobe allowed to work to feed their families purely because of their race or what side of a political boundary they were born, there is somethign seriously wrong with you ... unfortunately, a majority share that supremacist illness.

on May 09, 2010

Illegals ... first it was free black men, then anyone with Japanese ancestry, now hispanics and anyone wearing a beard.

If the United States is to be a supremacist state, then it deserves to be wiped off the face of the planet.

Bigotry and fascism disgusts me no end. When you feel it is a crime for someone tobe allowed to work to feed their families purely because of their race or what side of a political boundary they were born, there is somethign seriously wrong with you ... unfortunately, a majority share that supremacist illness.

Nice crock of shit, there.

on May 09, 2010

Nice foulmouth and dismissal of history repeating, there.

on May 09, 2010

Chibiabos
Nice foulmouth and dismissal of history repeating, there.

Nice comeback, there.

 

This isn't history repeating itself.  Being against illegal immigration isn't because we're racist, it's because if Mexico were to come into the US there would be zero jobs left for native-born US citizens who want them.  That wouldn't be fair.  I, for one, don't want to have to move to South America just to find work because South American citizens + outsourcing snatched up every available job.

$1000 will let you live like a king down there for a month.  I hazard to say that a large number of illegals are looking for more than to merely feed hungry families.

Besides, I like speaking English, thanks very much.

 

Also, you do realize that your statement is, in fact, an encouragement for illegals to break the law.  The law which ensures civil order and prevents the rise of an anarchic mob (mostly).  The law which is responsible for the prosperity which made the US appealing in the first place.

There is a method by which one can immigrate from South America to the US and be legally allowed to work.  In fact, beyond getting a green card it's not even difficult.

Yet you want us to ignore the fact that these people willfully break our laws, on grounds of "bigotry and fascism"?  Please.  Last time I checked, breaking the law got you jail time, not a pat on the back - though perhaps "racial sensitivity" will shoo that out the window.

This statement you just made comes very close to an anarchist ideology, and quite frankly I don't think the US needs any help in destroying itself at the moment.

 

*sigh*

That probably wasn't worth my time to type, but whatever.

on May 10, 2010

You're right.  Let me correct that:

Nice crock of feces, there.

on May 10, 2010

Audiafox

This isn't history repeating itself.  Being against illegal immigration isn't because we're racist, it's because if Mexico were to come into the US there would be zero jobs left for native-born US citizens who want them.  That wouldn't be fair.  I, for one, don't want to have to move to South America just to find work because South American citizens + outsourcing snatched up every available job.

 

It is history repeating itself.  You punish someone for being born in the wrong place by denying them an opportunity to work for a living.  What isn't fair is being not allowed to work for a living because of where you were born.

If someone else gets a job you were vying for, you feel that should be illegal if the person was born to the wrong [nation/race/caste/gender/orientation/religion/some other irrelevancy], race or caste and you don't think that's fascist?


Audiafox


$1000 will let you live like a king down there for a month.  I hazard to say that a large number of illegals are looking for more than to merely feed hungry families.

Besides, I like speaking English, thanks very much.

And your hazard would be false.  Most /are/ just trying to feed their families.  They can't get $1000 per month work.  Most can't get work at all because the companies and governments from their countries of origin are corrupt.  Did you know some of the wealthiest people in the world live in Mexico?  In fact, the CEO of a Mexican telecom exceeded Bill Gates' worth for several years recently.

When you pre-judge people you've never met, that's prejudism.  Pre-judge = prejudism.  Prejudism = supremacism.

 

Audiafox

Also, you do realize that your statement is, in fact, an encouragement for illegals to break the law.  The law which ensures civil order and prevents the rise of an anarchic mob (mostly).  The law which is responsible for the prosperity which made the US appealing in the first place.

Very circular when you define a group of people to be illegal.  If this were 160 years ago, I would be encouraging "illegals" to break the law if I, in any way shape or form, encouraged slaves to try to escape their captors.  If this were 60 years ago, I would be encouraging "illegals" to break the law if I, in any way shape or form, allowed a black person to sit in the front of a bus or use a bathroom labelled "whites only." 

Audiafox
There is a method by which one can immigrate from South America to the US and be legally allowed to work.  In fact, beyond getting a green card it's not even difficult.

Only by lottery.  There are persons born in other countires who serve tours of duty in the U.S. armed forces and are still not granted U.S. citizenship.  Any one /can/, but every one cannot because there are way too few.  Should you be allowed to work only if you pay money for a lottery ticket and have no better than a 1 in 1,000 chance of being allowed to work even after paying?

Audiafox


Yet you want us to ignore the fact that these people willfully break our laws, on grounds of "bigotry and fascism"?  Please.  Last time I checked, breaking the law got you jail time, not a pat on the back - though perhaps "racial sensitivity" will shoo that out the window.

A black man escaping slavery was willfully breaking our laws prior to the Emancipation Proclamation.  A person living in the West of Japanese ancestry who escaped internment camps willfully broke our laws.

Classist laws that discriminate against people because of their birth are fascist laws and should never be allowed.  The law is fascist and immoral.

Audiafox

This statement you just made comes very close to an anarchist ideology, and quite frankly I don't think the US needs any help in destroying itself at the moment.

Declaring a fascist law as invalid is no more anarchist than the voices who called for emancipation prior to the legal domestic abolition of slavery.

 

Audiafox

*sigh*

That probably wasn't worth my time to type, but whatever.

No more than the time it took for tea baggers to scribble their nonsense on their signs.

on May 10, 2010

Daiwa
You're right.  Let me correct that:

Nice crock of feces, there.

Rewording the same wrong statement does not correct it.

on May 10, 2010

When you feel it is a crime for someone tobe allowed to work to feed their families purely because of their race

That is a very racist and bigoted statement.  Thank you for showing your true colors. and your ignorance since you have no clue what the hell you are talking about.

on May 10, 2010

You punish someone for being born in the wrong place by denying them an opportunity to work for a living.

Another supremest and racist statement.  You are full of them (or it).  You seem to think that the only country worth living in and working in is the USA.  your ignorance knows no bounds apparently.  I can see where this current regime gets its racism and bigotry from.  The same place your ignorance and racism is rooted in.  And that saddens me.  That there are still racists like you in this country.

on May 10, 2010

I'MMA FIRIN' MAH LAZAH!

 

Chibiabos
A black man escaping slavery was willfully breaking our laws prior to the Emancipation Proclamation.

I suppose you also believe the Civil War was fought over slavery?  Bzzzt, wrong.  Good old Abe Lincoln couldn't have cared less about slavery.  In fact, most of the US didn't care about it either.

The Civil War was fought because the South was protesting against the government trying to pass laws on them (outlawing slavery) when it was not supposed to be in the power of the government to force such a thing on them.

In fact, the North winning the war actually meant that liberal bigots won, and our democracy took a near-lethal hit.  Unfortunately, the winners write the history, too.

In other words, this statement is totally invalid:

Chibiabos
Declaring a fascist law as invalid is no more anarchist than the voices who called for emancipation prior to the legal domestic abolition of slavery.

The truth is that it was anarchist.  Yes, they might have been doing something good or worthwhile morally, but the fact is that it was still open revolt against the government.  A good number of people involved in the "emancipation" movement were nothing short of terrorists.  Does the name John Brown ring a bell?

However, keeping illegals out of the country isn't fascist or supremacist of us, or even morally wrong.  And there are reasons for it, as described before.

 

And by the way, you're using the word "fascist" incorrectly (and really frequently - I've found that most people who overuse a word ironically don't know its true meaning).  The US is in no way a totalitarian state, and passing a law against illegal immigrants doesn't make it such, either.

 

Chibiabos
And your hazard would be false.  Most /are/ just trying to feed their families.  They can't get $1000 per month work.

You missed the point.  The illegals come here and make $1000 a month (probably more) and send it back to Mexico, where their families live like kings and queens.  If you could so easily raise your standard of living, would you be satisfied even if you had a job in Mexico?

The fact is that starvation is not a main motivator in illegal immigration, but greed.  Now I'm not saying that no illegals are trying to feed a starving family.  I'm just saying the number of starving people is just quite a bit lower than you might think.  I mean, if people were starving on such a massive scale, wouldn't we have a slightly larger issue with immigration?

What we're seeing is a case of "the pasture is greener across the fence" mentality.  If we made illegal immigration legal, we would have no end of people willing to do your job for half the money.  I think you would change your mind about "bigotry" once you were shown the door in favor of an immigrant.

And notice that I'm not saying Mexican or South American.  I'm talking about illegal immigrants of any race here.

I am not a racial bigot.  I am just against illegals, a demographic which happens to be mostly Mexican.

on May 10, 2010

I just realized that "I'MMA FIRIN' MAH LAZAH" could have been taken as bigotry against black people, and I apologize.  It was, in fact, a reference to "the Lazer Collection" which can be found on YouTube.

*cough*

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